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Eric Herot
Eric Herot
2 years 8 months ago

Ever wonder why the city pays to plow the roads (over and over and over again throughout the night while the snow is falling) but 98 percent of the sidewalks are basically left to chance?

Yeah.

lautaro xavier ovando
2 years 8 months ago

it’s called petro-capitalism! cheers!

Jack
Jack
2 years 8 months ago

No I haven’t wondered that, ever. Because its the most sensible thing to do in a snow storm. Roads provide transportation for all kinds of vehicles, including public favorites like, ambulances and fire trucks that respond to emergencies. Seeing how none of the necessary vehicles that provide emergency services are bicycles, its stands to reason that keeping the roads open for them to travel on would be every city and town’s first priority.

Eric Herot
Eric Herot
2 years 8 months ago

Okay firstly: We do not *just* plow the roads to allow emergency vehicles can use them. Almost every other use has a pedestrian alternative. I’m not saying that certain major arteries don’t deserve preferential treatment, but the current state–where tertiary roads are salted down to bare pavement and several stretches of sidewalk on my street haven’t even been touched, is an implicit acknowledgement that sidewalks are not considered to be a key part of our transportation infrastructure.

Eric Herot
Eric Herot
2 years 8 months ago

Also, even the emergency crews have to use the sidewalks once they climb out of their vehicles and attempt to gain access to a building.

Jack
Jack
2 years 8 months ago
Firstly, the sidewalk outside of a house or place of business is the responsibility of the property owner. If you live in Boston, then you got in your mail box or hung on your door a pamphlet telling you as such. So if portions of the sidewalk on your street aren’t shoveled, be angry at your lazy neighbors. (note: there are many elderly or disabled neighbors who are unable to shovel and do not have the monetary means to provide snow removal, for which there is an awesome web app where such folks and ask for assistance) “This is not… Read more »
Eric Herot
Eric Herot
2 years 8 months ago
So I realize that is how the web of responsibility works right now. What I’m saying is that a quick glance down any random street in Boston is proof positive that this approach doesn’t work if your goal is to have a clear path from point A to point B that an elderly or disabled person could traverse. Even many state-owned sidewalks are not shoveled. Also, it’s inefficient. A single person with a riding snow-blower is going to be able to do a whole street’s worth of sidewalks for much less time and money than fifty or a hundred individual’s… Read more »
Matthew J
Matthew J
2 years 8 months ago
The flaw in your argument Jack is the failure of the City to follow up on what you suggest is a sensible effort to assure emergency response. The narrow plowed lanes on the thorougfares, crowded as they are with cars most of the day, hinder emergency response vehicles. Side streets are even worse. Indeed there have been many instances of fire trucks and ambulances unable to reach the site of an emergency on side streets clogged with parked cars and snow, the narrow plowed lane too small for the emergency vehicle. If the city’s real concern was emergency response it… Read more »
dr2chase
dr2chase
2 years 8 months ago

Matthew J – exactly so. It’s common, when stopped at one side or the other of Fresh Pond Mall after work, to see ambulances slowed to a crawl by all the auto traffic. If it were just for emergency vehicles, we wouldn’t need to plow the whole road anyway — one lane tends to be plenty for them. (I’ve seen emergency vehicles — ambulance, police, and firetruck — on the Minuteman Bikeway, and it’s all of 12 feet wide.).

JohnH
JohnH
2 years 7 months ago
Our village (near-urban suburb of Milwaukee, WI) actually does plow the public sidewalks when we get anything over an inch, as well as the major north-south bike path (the city proper also plows the major bike paths in its territory). The bike lanes on the streets are all still a mess, though, and it’s been weeks since we’ve had any serious snow. Mainly it’s just been too cold for anything to melt and evaporate, and the bike lanes tend to be where the snow from the rest of the road gets pushed in the first place. Or, if people actually… Read more »
Jay B
Jay B
2 years 8 months ago

You so rock.

Opus the Poet
2 years 8 months ago

Hee hee, where I live they don’t even have snowplows and salt trucks. When it snows everybody just goes nuts for a few days and they shut everything down until it melts. Seriously, an inch of snow and nobody can move…

mimc
mimc
2 years 8 months ago

I visited a city like that during a snow storm once. I asked them why everything was shut down and a local informed me there were no snowplows. I then asked them why they needed snowplows for less than an inch of snow. Here we just drive slower.

chris
chris
2 years 8 months ago
Funny I was just reading the comments to your last post “traffic talk”, and was thinking to my self that the other gripe I have is the people who complain about the weather, ‘too wet, too cold or too hot…. to ride’ and only a few weeks ago it was (in South Australia) ‘when are we getting some warm weather? I’m so sick of being cold!’ And now today we have our first heat wave for summer and it is over 40c and every one I see and the radio and TV is like ‘OMG it is so hot how… Read more »
Chris
2 years 8 months ago
I lived in the Denver area for five years and remember the first time I went out on my bike to commute to work and discovered that the greenway path (Clear Creek Trail) was cleared of all snow, but the roads were a mess. In that area the park and rec dept contracted to have someone plow the trails (probably with an ATV) and that service was independent of what the road crews were doing and was completed early. Then I remember the morning it had began snowing at 5am and had dumped almost a foot of snow by 6am… Read more »
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